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Professor Chris Burns: Rickson’s “Invisible Jiu-Jitsu” & the Mission of Rickson Gracie United

full interview podcast Sep 08, 2026

Host Pete Deeley talks with Professor Chris about preserving Gracie Jiu-Jitsu—specifically Rickson Gracie’s interpretation focused on practical self-defense, common-sense solutions to common attacks, and “invisible jiu-jitsu” principles like connection, base, timing, and control rather than strength or athleticism. Chris explains how self-defense knowledge has been diluted by sport-focused training, why losing this curriculum forces people to “reinvent the wheel,” and how he was injured after seeking self-defense but ending up in a sport school. He describes building Rickson Gracie United as a structured, global curriculum with tiers and affiliate academies, adding stress and live sparring, and keeping sport and self-defense unified while making training accessible for beginners, kids, and non-competitors. The conversation also touches on Rickson’s character, honesty, boundaries, and how jiu-jitsu teaches realistic self-assessment.

In this episode

  • 00:00 Welcome and Updates
  • 01:07 Movie References Warmup
  • 03:07 Why Preserve Gracie Jiu Jitsu
  • 08:23 Invisible Jiu Jitsu Basics
  • 09:49 Rickson Gracie United Launch
  • 11:05 Making Self Defense Accessible
  • 14:06 What Gets Lost Without It
  • 15:17 Personal Story and Injuries
  • 17:39 Jiu Jitsu Telephone Effect
  • 21:04 Sport Growth and Realism
  • 23:32 Sport and Self Defense Unity
  • 30:52 Who Self Defense Is For
  • 32:18 Training Is Not Fighting
  • 33:08 Trauma Empathy On Mats
  • 34:00 Why Rickson Matters
  • 36:27 Good Person Boundaries
  • 38:13 Honesty Ocean Metaphor
  • 42:55 Teaching Kids Through Play
  • 44:51 Belts Competition Context
  • 46:49 Confidence For Daughters
  • 49:28 Internet Backlash Tribalism
  • 52:52 Open Hand Learning
  • 55:24 Lose To Learn Timing
  • 58:16 Preserving Rickson Legacy
  • 01:00:38 Mats Are Contextual
  • 01:01:57 RGU Links And Farewell

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